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Regarding your claim that once you understand an argument, authority is a footnote, I think this neglects the possibility that you might think you understand an argument while not actually getting it. Pretty much nobody who ever misunderstands an argument or things they have rebuted it when they haven’t thinks they don’t understand the argument. For example, back in the day, I used to be confident that I had seen the problems with the argument from fine-tuning and therefore the actual value of physical constants shouldn’t be a problem I need to worry about. I still think it doesn’t work as an argument for God, but now that I have a better grasp of anthropics, I think I was clearly in error when I thought I had seen why the argument was mistaken. Basically, if you and a super smart person disagree about whether an argument is correct, you should all else equal assume that the smarter person is correct.

I do think Scott is a poor example, because while I’m pretty confident, he is smarter than I and possibly you his actual performance in his prediction contests makes me think you’d be better off, consulting the opinion of superforecasters. Of course as a practical matter, I noticed that I feel comfortable disregarding their opinions where I think the reasoning is clearly wrong, for example on existential risk from artificial intelligence. Similarly, I think many worlds is correct, even though the community of physicists who have probably forgotten more on the topic then I remember is sharply divided when it comes to this subject. This does indicate that subconsciously my brain still thinks it’s knowledgeable enough to judge the topics to some extent, but I noticed I thought the same back when I was in my auntie string theory phase, and in retrospect, I was clearly not thinking clearly in that time period and definitely wasn’t as knowledgeable as I needed to be to form confident opinions. I think in practice you need to give substantial way to authority when reasoning about a topic, but I do think that I’m not making a mistake when I don’t give authority in finite wait and do let sufficient evidence from my own thinking overrule It. Of course, this could be a mistake, and I noticed most people have overly confident opinions on topics where they have done, minimal research and thinking, even though they are aware that experts disagree. Think of topics like the minimum wage where people will actively get angry at the suggestion that it’s not definitely a good idea, even though professional economists disagree on the topic. Of course, I noticed I myself have several topics on which I think expert disagreement is irrelevant, like the non-existence of libertarian free will or my belief that electrons aren’t conscious.

I absolutely agree that you can’t judge who is an expert without already having a good understanding of the topic. As Scott noted if you are a young earth creationist, you think the relevant experts are fundamentalist preachers, and listen to the experts can’t possibly save you then. In fact, very often, you’ll judge whether you can trust the experts by looking at whether you think they come to correct conclusions in which case you can’t then turnaround and use your conclusions to form your own. At the very least, even if you don’t want to judge them by their conclusions, you have to judge them by something like the quality of their arguments. In which case you’re already filtering for people who agree with you on which arguments are valid.

In general, the actual solution, most people in our position appear to resolve on is generally trust the experts, but feel free to disagree with them if you have thought about the topic sufficiently. of course, I noticed that many of these same people are much more absolute in their trust of the stock market. Even though it effectively works by aggregating the knowledge of society which these self same people feel free to 2nd guess in different situations. Of course, given that these people end up effectively disagreeing with the stock market on various things like artificial intelligence, perhaps this is evidence they should trust the stock market less. Although I would note hear that, even if it leads to less accurate beliefs, ignoring authority is desirable for there to be disagreement in society because the discussion that follows will generally make society more accurate in its beliefs. Even if individual members are pushed further from the truth. Though I do think outside of expert communities on the margin we have too much willingness to ignore authority. Also to be fair while the arguments for complete adherence to authority can be philosophically strong. Most people can’t actually follow such a principle in practice.

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